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Roger Waters, © Daily Telegraph |
'Rock stars can do opera. Music is music'
Ex-Pink Floyd legend Roger Waters tells Jonathan Wingate about his latest project
Although his reputation as a
difficult interviewee certainly precedes him, Roger Waters seems in an
upbeat mood when we meet to discuss his latest project.
The only problem is that while
keen to talk up Ça Ira, Pink Floyd's former creative leader is actually
more interested in monitoring England's progress in the final Test.
"I'm living in the States now,"
Waters says, holding a radio to his ear, "and the one thing I really
miss is watching the cricket. You get plenty of soccer, but they
couldn't possibly sell cricket over there."
Ice duly broken, Waters proudly
pulls out the lavishly illustrated libretto for what he calls an
"operatic history of the French Revolution". He has been fine-tuning Ça
Ira on and off since 1989; even by Roger Waters' exacting standards,
it's a long time to be working on an album, his first since 1992's
Amused To Death.
"I actually wrote and demoed the
basic thing in about six weeks," he says, "working sort of bankers'
hours." Before he began composing Ça Ira, which loosely translates as
"so it will be", Waters says his knowledge of the French Revolution was
limited, until songwriter Etienne Roda-Gil and his wife Nadine brought
him the libretto.
"Etienne believes there are
lessons to be learned from that period, when America and France first
acknowledged the idea that human beings have certain inalienable
rights. The US, clearly, barely pays lip service to the idea now. If
you look upon the France of that time as a microcosm of what's
happening globally now, the parallels are extremely powerful."
Most rock musicians would
struggle to get such an ambitious project taken seriously, but Pink
Floyd's music is so respected within the classical community that
Waters had no trouble enlisting heavyweights including bass-baritone
Bryn Terfel and conductor Rick Wentworth.
While Ça Ira may sound like the
sort of pretentious nonsense that only rock stars with too much time
and money would undertake, it is actually one of the most melodic and
memorable modern operas to emerge for years. "Oh really?" says Waters,
looking surprised. "It is melodic, and contemporary works aren't
usually very melodic. There's something very moving about lots of
voices singing together."
Was he intimidated by the idea of
entering the world of opera? "I just think music is music. We all know
that music moves us in some tangible way, and it doesn't matter if it's
a symphony orchestra or somebody twanging on an electric guitar. But I
did have a lot of help from Rick in translating my ideas to the
musicians, because there are certain technicalities in writing a score
that I had no idea about."
At the age of 62, Waters admits
he has been preoccupied with the same themes throughout his career. "I
think I am still preoccupied by the same things that I was 30 years
ago," he sighs. "Losing my father, and that attachment that I have to
his humanity, is still central to everything that I do. Ça Ira and The
Wall are about communication and realising the human potential for
empathy, which is what sets us apart from the animals."
After he left the band in 1983,
he was effectively written out of the Pink Floyd story. The rest of the
group carried on using the name, although they were playing concerts
dominated by Waters' songs. Until their recent reunion at Live8, Waters
had barely talked to guitarist Dave Gilmour in almost 25 years.
"I was surprised people didn't
take more notice of what I did after I left. If my last album had had
Pink Floyd written on it, there's no question in my mind it would be
one of the biggest selling records of all time. But I'm the first to
admit the combination of the four of us working together as Pink Floyd
was greater than the sum of the parts.
"When I first heard Ray Charles
singing Georgia On My Mind, I remember thinking: 'If I could ever write
a song that could move anyone like this song moves me, that would be it
- I'd be happy.'
"Although I'm not comparing
myself to Hoagy Carmichael [who wrote the song], I sense that at some
point along the way I've provided that moment for somebody else."
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