'We had vast amounts of fun. No one seemed to spot that'
Pink
Floyd are one of the biggest bands in rock history. They are also
regarded as dour and grumpy. David Gilmour wants to put the record
straight. By Alexis Petridis
As has often been pointed out, at
58, David Gilmour does not look like one of the most successful rock
stars in history. Nor, it has to be said, does he sound like one. While
not plummy in the Brian Sewell sense, he is certainly posher than your
average guitarist. He loathes being called Dave. He uses the word
"backside". He says "one" a lot. When the subject of selling his London
home and donating the £4m proceeds to homeless charity Crisis arises,
he says: "One does get to the point when one realises one has more than
one needs."
The Pink Floyd guitarist's Sussex
pile is not the tasteless rock-star mansion of legend, awash with
platinum discs and leopardskin furniture. It is a beautiful farmhouse,
albeit one with an advanced case of elephantitis. It manages to look
simultaneously lived-in and enormous. Across the courtyard there are
stables full of horses. In one corner of a kitchen larger than your
average London flat sits Gilmour's wife, novelist Polly Samson. A
vision of Nigella-esque loveliness, she cradles a baby, Gilmour's
eighth child. Frankly, if you had his money - estimated earlier this
year at £75m, making him the 465th richest man in Britain - you would
live like this as well.
The means by which Gilmour came
to this end are intriguing and unique. Plenty of rock stars have become
rich and famous, but - at least until Radiohead, to whom Gilmour
chucklingly refers as "poor old Radiohead" - only Pink Floyd have
become rich and famous by selling alienation, madness, misery and death.
At the end of the 1960s, Pink
Floyd were a jobbing progressive-rock band, who had some lofty ideas
involving quadrophonic sound systems, collaborations with orchestras
and choirs and playing live in ruined amphitheatres. More often than
not, the ideas fell flat, as on 1970's symphonic Atom Heart Mother, an
album Gilmour succinctly described as "shit". Their genius leader Syd
Barrett had long since left not just the band but the planet, thanks to
his prodigious appetite for LSD.
One theory suggests that
Barrett's breakdown lent Pink Floyd a melancholy and a gimlet-eyed
ambition lacking in their more idealistic hippy contemporaries. Gilmour
is less sure. "Maybe we're confusing two things here. I don't think
hippy idealism is the same thing as taking loads and loads of LSD and
partying. We were all ambitious as musicians. I suppose the hippy
movement seemed rather anti-ambition, anti-material gain. I certainly
don't think I'm motivated by rampant materialism. I can't say that I've
ever objected to earning a few quid, but it's not my primary
motivation."
Whatever the reason, melancholy
and gimlet-eyed ambition were much in evidence on 1973's Dark Side of
the Moon. State-of-the-art production and Gilmour's note-perfect
playing collided with bassist Roger Waters's grim lyrical vision, which
fretted about materialism and age creeping up on you. A lot of people
were clearly fretting about the same things: Dark Side of the Moon
spent 14 years on the US album chart, making Pink Floyd one of the
biggest rock bands in history and simultaneously characterising them as
hopelessly dour.
The band did little to refute the
latter charge. The more successful they became, the grumpier their
records got: 1979's The Wall complained about virtually every aspect of
being in a rock band, went platinum 23 times over and spawned concerts
during which a polystyrene wall was constructed between band and
audience. Life in Pink Floyd never looked like a barrel of laughs.
"Well, you know, you're right,"
says Gilmour. "There were fights, but we did have really good times. We
were unsuccessful at putting humour across. We put some great jokes in
things, little backwards messages to pander to these anoraks who hunt
for things and claim malign influences. We had vast amounts of fun
doing that. But no one seemed to spot it."
Given the acrimonious nature of
Floyd's music, there was something inevitable about the acrimony of
their split. Waters left after 1983's The Final Cut ("We should have
called it The Final Straw," sighs Gilmour), and sued to dissolve the
band. He failed, the others carried on, making two more hit albums and
big-grossing tours with Gilmour as leader. Since then the rancour
between the two has descended into farce (Waters claimed to have
patented the inflatable flying pig that forms part of Pink Floyd's
extravagant stage show, forcing the remaining members to build another
inflatable flying pig, with a pair of enormous testicles added) and
shows few signs of abating. "I want people around me who are creative,
lively, interested and interesting," Waters said recently. "Dave is
none of those things."
"One gets defensive," says
Gilmour, "but I don't analyse too much who was the heart, who was the
brains, who was the soul. All I can say is it was a pop group and it
had a sound and the bass player doesn't usually create the whole sound,
does he? One could say, if it was all Roger, why hasn't he done better
since? But I wouldn't say that. I will not allow myself to get drawn
in."
While Waters tours arenas billed
as the Creative Genius Behind Pink Floyd, Gilmour has released a DVD of
his charming solo show at the Royal Festival Hall last year, devoid of
flying pigs, with Pink Floyd songs performed largely on acoustic
guitar. The show was big on intimacy, in stark contrast to Pink Floyd's
reputation as one of rock's more remote bands.
"That is the perception," Gilmour
nods. "A lot of the material reaches right into the hearts and souls of
people: Wish You Were Here, Shine On You Crazy Diamond. But I suppose
as Pink Floyd grew in stature and popularity, the venues became so vast
and that created a sense of distance."
Building a polystyrene wall
between you and the audience probably didn't help. "Well, the intention
of that was to point out the possible remoteness and get rid of it. The
wall that separated us from our audience or separated people from
people, I could see it, but I didn't feel it applied to me."
Aloof or not, Pink Floyd's
influence on music seems to roll on endlessly. They survived the Sex
Pistols (who wore T-shirts reading "I Hate Pink Floyd") and today,
everyone from Marilyn Manson to Noel Gallagher pays homage.
"Do I keep up with current
trends?" Gilmour chuckles. "No." He thinks for a minute, and comes up
with something unexpected. "I like that fellow Mike Skinner, the
Streets. Being of an incredibly advanced age, I don't understand these
labels, industrial garage or whatever, but that track Let's Push Things
Forward appealed to me. Why? It's rhythmically and musically
interesting, and philosophically interesting as well."
- David Gilmour's Live In Concert DVD is out now.
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