The following interview has been transcribed from the UK magazine, Mojo.
Q: Have Pink Floyd split up?
David Gilmour: I cant see
anything in the near future myself, I've been enjoying doing things on
a different scale, downsizing a bit. I feel no need to do a big tour
again - if ever, at my hugely advanced age.
Q: Surely, the subject's been raised while you've been working collectively on the new CD?
David Gilmour: The term
'working collectively' is a loose one! There's been the occasional
phone call but no great brainstorming sessions to get us all together.
All our stuff is conducted through our engineer James Guthrie, who
coordinated Echoes from his place in Lake Tahoe.
Q: So, no summit meeting with Roger then?
David Gilmour: No, Roger
and I haven't spoken or been in the same room since he left in 1987. It
obviously feels odd, but I knew what Roger was like. When Roger cuts
off from people, he cuts off from them.
Q: Who wanted Echoes, the band or EMI?
David Gilmour: We've been
talking about doing a Best Of for years, and it seemed like the right
time to come up with one. Yes, the record company were very keen on
getting this out, but it was not a pressure we particularly wanted to
resist.
Q: Presumably, track selection has been a long and tortuous process?
David Gilmour: We've been
arguing about it since May. Nick sent us a list right at the beginning,
then he seemed to lose interest. Rick never seemed to want to get
involved in it. It wandered along rather fitfully until recently, when
I thought I'd better work out what we should be trying to do with it,
whether we should try and represent every album or not, and on what
basis we should be choosing songs. In the end we had to get everyone to
vote on a list.
Q: But most of the songs seemed to have picked themselves?
David Gilmour: I agree. When I look at it, it's bloody obvious really. It's amazing how long the process has been getting it sorted out.
Q: What were the main bones of contention?
David Gilmour: I wanted
Fat Old Sun on there but none of the others were having it. In fact the
track listing is still not finalised. It comes down to what I say at
this point. Roger's sort of given up on it. He gets very grumpy because
he thinks I tell Nick and Rick what they've got to do and outvote him.
You wouldn't want his list; I don't think six tracks from The Final Cut
is what people want! Having said that, among the songs that all three
of us voted for was The Fletcher Memorial Home. It dates from one of
the worst periods of my
life. It was a nightmare working with Roger at that time, and I'm
heavily disinclined to listen to The Final Cut or anything to do with
it. But it's a great song. We'd also had arguments about how many Syd
tracks to put on. I've managed to get five, but some people are still
hustling to lose Bike.
Q: Did you feel intimidated when you were asked to replace Syd?
David Gilmour: Definitely,
in the beginning. Anyone joining any band tries to make what they do
try to fit in with what's going on, and what fitted previously was Syd.
But there was a large arrogant part of me that thought, I can make this
much better. I wouldn't have joined had I not thought that.
Q: Was Syd ever seriously considered as a potential, stay-at-home Brian Wilson figure?
David Gilmour: It wasn't
like it couldn't have worked if we'd worked on it, but we quickly felt
self-sufficient without him. Our popularity, which had gone in a
distinct downward spiral, picked up again through 1968 and 1969, so it
felt irrelevant to keep Syd.
Q: Did you seriously envisage him returning as a significant force?
David Gilmour: No, given
the state of his mind during the period that I joined and afterwards,
it would have been very hard to convince myself that he was going to
'come right' and turn back into a capable genius.
Q: When you joined, was Roger leading the band?
David Gilmour: I think he
was trying to keep it all going. I don't think Roger had any big ego
about wanting to be the writer any more than anyone else. Later, maybe,
but not at the beginning. And he certainly didn't want to sing
anything. He got me to sing just about everything.
Q: The late 60's were precarious for Pink Floyd. Did you know what you were doing?
David Gilmour: We didn't
know where we were going in terms of recording, but we were pretty good
live. We were very good at jamming, but we couldn't translate that onto
record. Gradually, a direction revealed itself to us, a line that began
with the Saucerful of Secrets track all the way to Echoes, via the long
piece Atom heart Mother. That was a good idea but it was dreadful. I
listened to that album recently: God, it's shit, possibly our lowest
point artistically. Atom Heart Mother sounds like we didn't have any
idea between us, but we became much more prolific after it.
Q: Did late 60's Floyd think of themselves as po-faced pop Beethoven's?
David Gilmour: No, it's
easy to think that our music came from that kind of attitude, but it
was more experimental than that. It was a genuine attempt to find a new
way forward, something beyond the dictate of the three-minute pop song.
Po-faced isn't a word I'd use. It didn't feel that joyless at the time.
Q: Today you seem to have
been getting a lot of enjoyment as a hired hand - for Paul McCartney,
The Pretty Things and, in October, with Robyn Hitchcock?
David Gilmour: It's great,
there's no pressure. You just turn up with your guitar and amp, you
plug in, and you don't have to have a song or a thought in your head.
But I would hate my life to be like that all the time. Ones ego, ones
desire to create, always returns.
Q: So why has yours been rather dormant at the moment?
David Gilmour: I've put
myself off the whole idea of creating much music. I've got 120 scratchy
little bits that I'm loading into my new computerised recording system,
but they're just snippets. One has to sit down and start working to
turn snippets into something, and I haven't really done that yet.
Instead I've been relaxing, enjoying family life and bringing up my
children. I enjoyed playing that solo show as part of Robert Wyatt's
Meltdown and I'm hoping to do two or three nights at the Festival Hall
in January and a couple of nights in Paris. It'll be more or less
unplugged, with a lot of Pink Floyd stuff.
Q: Surveying many memories of Pink Floyd peaks on Echoes must give you a profound sense of musical satisfaction?
David Gilmour: There are
tons of little moments there, on Echoes, Wish You Were Here, Shine On
You Crazy Diamond, they all have elements of that. But you're never
entirely satisfied. I still sit and listen to songs and think, if only.
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