Kindly transcribed by Murray Singleton - thanks Murray!
We're not exactly sure just where
this interview came from, but reference is made to 'issue 63' of a
publication. The interview appears on the back cover of the vinyl ROIO
Mihalis by David Gilmour which was recorded while he was on the
Scandinavian leg of the About Face tour. This would have been on April
24 1984 at the Isstadion, Stockholm, Sweden. From the tone of the
interview it appears that it took place immediately prior to the tour.
In 1981, biographer Miles
described Pink Floyd as "the most commercially successful group on the
planet", but despite this accolade, Pink Floyd as individuals have long
retained an air of quiet anonymity, shadowy figures moodily evading the
gaudy fanfare surrounding their peers in the rock aristocracy. Perhaps
the only bracket David Gilmour shares with comparably successful
musicians – Sting, Jagger, Townshend – is his income bracket.
Yet, echoing a comment of
Jagger's in 1980 (when questioned as to his motivations for continuing
to tour, Jagger said: "Well we all need to make a few bob, you know"),
David Gilmour is now embarking on a solo career that he regards as a
very serious business enterprise. The March release of a solo album,
'About Face' (reviewed issue 63), and a single, 'Blue Light', prefaced
the start of a lengthy European tour this month, to be followed by a
visit to the States in May.
In order to build a
successful career, one has to, in Gilmour's own words 'make a splash at
the beginning'. To make that splash, he has had to step out of the
shadows and, while not moving into the full beam of the spotlight, he
has at least walked out into the comparative glare of the daylight.
Aside from rehearsing his group, and making two videos in two weeks, he
is being introduced to the joys of meeting the press. A chaotic
schedule of personal and telephone interviews by reporters from a
variety of European papers and radio stations is being undertaken in a
salubrious hotel in Reading, and Gilmour looks wretched.
The unshaven look, as on the
album cover, is matched by tired eyes, and a yawn never far from the
surface, while his stocky frame clothed in neutral coloured shirt and
blue jeans, completes the picture of a weary brickie contemplating the
hours till it's time to knock off for lunch. The image is bellied by
the cultured intonation of his voice, as he explains the current Pink
Floyd situation and his feelings about his solo career, while declining
an invitation from our photographer, the comely Erica, to go down to
the swimming pool for some 'snaps' (he agreed in the end).
Q: Was "The Final Cut", in fact, a requiem for Pink Floyd?
David Gilmour: Not
that I'm aware of – that's not the way I saw it. The 'final cut' in
film terminology is that phrase used for the finished article. When you
stock all the rushes together basically in the right order – all the
right shots and all the right takes in more or less the right order –
you call it the 'rough cut'. And, when you've cleaned it up and got it
perfect, you call it the "final cut". It's also an expression for a
stab in the back, which I think is rather the way Roger sees the film
industry.
Q: So what exactly is the situation with Pink Floyd?
David Gilmour: Ah (mock
surprise) – that's what you were getting at. Well no-one has said
they're leaving Pink Floyd, no-one has said the group has packed up.
But we don't have any plans to do anything. Although I've read on a
number of occasions certain 'exclusive' reports that we have packed up,
those reports have been made up.
Q: How close are you and Roger Waters these days?
David Gilmour: About as
close as we've ever been, which is not terribly close. We're not close
personal friends, we never have been. We get on alright, really, we
have our ups and downs, we fight, but we've always fought.
Q: How much has what remains of Pink Floyd become a vehicle for Roger's vision?
David Gilmour: Largely.
It's always been a vehicle for Roger's vision more than anyone else's.
Lyrically, it's been his vision completely for the last few years, but
the musical contributions have been more shared. Not so much on 'The
Final Cut', though. 'The Final Cut' is completely Roger's thing really.
Q: How is Roger's solo album (The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking) coming along?
David Gilmour: He's finished it. He finished it before I finished mine. I haven't heard it yet, but it's due out in May I think.
Q: Is there any point continuing with Pink Floyd?
David Gilmour: I don't
know. There may or may not be a point in it. What can be achieved when
Roger and I work together and put our minds to it and want to work
together, could still be good. There are still things which could be
done which could be great. So from that point of view it is possible
that one might want to do something again; and if we did we could do
something great. I'm certain of it.
Q: Would that include Nick Mason?
David Gilmour: Yup. I should think so. Who knows?
Q: Your solo album seems
more concerned with songs and certain musical variations that would be
unlikely to appear on a Floyd LP. How important has it been for you to
find an outlet for your own ideas?
David Gilmour: It's not
really so much finding an outlet for my own ideas as finding an outlet
for me to be able to work. Pink Floyd don't always work when I want to.
It's hard to get everyone organized and agreeing to do something at the
same time. So it's very nice to have a career where I can make the
decisions about what I want to do and when I want to do it. I've always
got tunes around that I can start working on when I've got the time.
I've been wanting to make a solo album since I did the last one ('David
Gilmour' 1978).
Be that as it may, for David
Gilmour it is still a big step to go from making a solo album during an
interregnum in Floyd activities to the current operation which involves
getting his own band together and mounting a full scale tour in the
light of the possible demise of Pink Floyd. How does he view the
prospect?
David Gilmour: Well it's
quite nerve racking, quite frightening, but we'll go ahead and do it
and see what it's like. I don’t know what it's going to be like. I
haven't done that sort of thing for so long, or on this sort of a
scale, but I'm sure I'll bluff it out.
In assembling his musicians
Gilmour has been helped by another member of the Thames Valley rock
aristocracy, Mick Ralphs, formerly with Bad Company (another band that
died because nobody could be bothered to pick up a phone). About a year
ago Ralphs set about forming his own solo group and after protracted
research and auditions, recruited among others bassist Mickey Feat (ex
Van Morrison, Alvin Lee) and drummer Chris Slade (ex-Manfred Mann,
Frankie Miller). Gilmour has taken the nucleus of Ralphs, Feat and
Slade, and added Greg Dechart on keyboards, percussionist Jodi Linscott
and celebrated session sax player Raff ("Baker Street") Ravenscroft to
complete the band.
David Gilmour: In choosing
musicians you pick up the best of what you can find. There are a lot of
reasons for picking the people you do. Their availability is one that's
very relevant when it comes to touring. And their price is also very
relevant.
Q: Even to you?
David Gilmour: Yes.
Q: You haven't got unlimited funds then?
David Gilmour: Absolutely not. Making an album and doing a tour... there's no point in doing them if you can't make a profit out of it.
Q: What are the terms of your contract with EMI?
David Gilmour: We all have
solo career clauses built into our contracts, so we can put out solo
records. There are obviously tons of provisos and things written in. We
can't just keep whacking hundreds of them out and not sell any. We wont
keep getting advances if we make bad records that don't sell. It's like
any other normal business situation. Albums come out, and if they do
well it's quite alright to go on doing more.
Q: There's a wide variety of styles on 'About Face'. What are your sources of inspiration, what do you listen to?
David Gilmour: I don't
know, I just make up tunes and they come out and that's what I carry on
with. I never worry about whether there's going to be a consistency of
style. In fact, a lot of albums bug me because they're the same all the
way through. People used to vary things like mad, but now they're all
too consistent. People think there's a formula which they ought to
stick to and I don't like doing that.
Q: Do you feel that, given
the dubious position of Pink Floyd, 'About Face' is a more ambitious
project than your previous solo album?
David Gilmour: Yes
definitely. I do intend with this project to make some sort of career
that I can follow. You have to go for broke on these things,
particularly at the beginning. You have to put everything into trying
to get the original splash noticed so you can carry on doing something.
Q: Some of your lyrics seem a bit cynical. Are you a cynical person?
David Gilmour: I suppose I must be if the lyrics seem cynical. Or perhaps its just the way I write lyrics.
Q: Do you worry about the way the world is going?
David Gilmour: Yes, don't
you? I'm not very experienced at writing lyrics. I think I have
reasonably high standards, but its very difficult to try and write good
lyrics. They’ve got to do something. There's no point in having them
unless they do something.
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